ADVANCED SUITE OF MULTIMEDIA FLASH EDITORS FOR ARTISTS WILL BE RETIRED IN SEPTEMBER

Posted on July 21, 2012 by Avi

Hi folks,

As you might know, Aviary officially changed directions in September 2011 to focus more on helping developers of photo apps. We currently power the photo-editing of third party apps on mobile and web through Aviary’s simple plugin for iOS, Android, Windows Phone 7 and HTML5.  Over the past 10 months since turning down this path, we’ve grown to 11 million active users, editing more than 150 million photos in Aviary, each month. And our tremendous growth under this new direction is showing no signs of slowing down. Even our developer showcase app “Photo Editor by Aviary” has been a smash hit, shooting up to #2 in iOS’s Photos category and breaking into the Top 25 free apps in the App Store (with a 5-star average rating).

This incredible adoption has proven to us that we are currently on the right path on our mission of democratizing creativity – making it possible for anyone, no matter what their talent or skill levels, to express themselves creatively. And it’s also clear that we need to continue to focus on this path and dedicate our development resources accordingly.

Since rebuilding our team late last year around this mission, we have effectively left the advanced suite of multimedia Flash editors for artists untouched, except for time spent fixing bugs (and with each new update to the Flash platform, there continues to be new ones introduced). With Flash’s general decline as a platform over the last few years, it is becoming more and more of a time sink for our team to fix and support these issues.

We therefore have made the difficult decision to retire the advanced suite of multimedia Flash editors for artists (located at advanced.aviary.com) on September 15th, 2012. Between now and this time period, you are encouraged to download (and/or export) any files currently residing on the system as they may not be available after that time.  

We will unfortunately no longer be able to offer additional support for this suite between now and then, though you are welcome to continue to use it without support until it officially closes.

This is obviously a very difficult and sad announcement for us to make – much love, sweat, passion, investment and energy went into building our advanced suite of multimedia Flash editors. But our team, board and investors all recognize that continuing to support and develop a suite of legacy products on a platform that is declining would be a tremendous waste of resources, in addition to being too big a distraction to the success of our current focus.

To answer the obvious question: Will we rebuild the advanced multimedia suite for artists in HTML5 (or natively on mobile)? We have no plans at this time to do so. We feel that we’re currently on the right path to success and it would be too distracting to have to completely rebuild products from scratch that are off that path, at this time.

We have no recommendations for other editors you could use as alternative to our advanced suite of multimedia flash editors for artists right now, but will try to compile some closer to September when we send out a reminder notice. We do recommend that if you are a member of the artist community at advanced.aviary.com, you join the awesome community of artists at Worth1000.com.

To those of you inconvenienced by this announcement, I am truly sorry. I hope you understand why this is necessary and will continue to support the company on its current path.

Best, Avi

CEO / Aviary

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EDIT ADDED JULY 25th, 2012:

A number of commenters have asked why this change was necessary (i.e. why can’t we just leave the apps running unsupported?). I should have communicated that better in this announcement and apologize.

There are a number of reasons, which I’ll illustrate here, but first, please realize that this announcement represented a last resort for us. If there was anything that logistically made sense we would not have made the decision to close the suite.

So why aren’t we just leaving it running unsupported? There are a number of reasons, all important:

1) Lack of time / resources. Any time spent fixing bugs (or hiring staff to fix bugs), is time spent away from our new direction. The amount of work the suite requires to maintain is too big to sustain with incremental maintenance. Flash is constantly releasing new versions of their player. Browsers are constantly releasing new versions as well. Each change represents a potential introduction of bugs. If we would leave the suite running, but unsupported, it would quickly turn into a suite of broken junk. Not only would I not want that outcome for something we all worked so hard on, it would reflect badly on the company’s ability to create great software – which is crucial under our current direction.

2) It’s really expensive and we will not recoup those costs. The suite alone costs us several thousand dollars a month in hosting fees. Any time spent continuing to maintain the suite still costs us a lot of money. There is no way to recoup those costs and building in some kind of new business model to do so at this stage would be a tremendous (and probably futile) distraction. Investors in our newest round provided us with capital to focus on our new direction and we need to use those funds to maximize our traction under the new direction.

3) Flash is declining. Even if we would spent the money to continue to host AND maintain it, we would be supporting a platform that would potentially disappear in the near future, instead of building on platforms that will be around for a while (native mobile and HTML5). Sorry, but even if we were continuing on our old path, we would have eventually made the decision to retire our flash apps in favor of new HTML5 or mobile apps written on a platform that we knew would be around for a while.

There are other additional reasons too, but those listed are probably the most important. I hope that helps explain the situation a bit better.

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  • zerker2000

    Is there any hope of the suite being released as freeware, e.g. packaged in an executable wrapped with the current flash player? I highly doubt there exists an analogue to Peacock with a similarly well-designed interface.

  • Dweeb8

    You just screwed a whole lot of educators who use this site to teach students. 

    • rache48m

      While I’m disappointed as well, that’s hardly fair and reeks of entitlement. Aviary provides a free tool for 4+ years for anyone to use. Taking it away isn’t screwing anyone. You wouldn’t have had anything at all if Aviary hadn’t been around. 

      You should be thanking them for the use of a free tool all this time, not blaming them for having to take it away.

      • Jabatronic

         I agree with this to an extent. I’m not sure one can should be vilified for taking away what one has provided for free. However, Aviary have undoubtedly gained strength as a company due to the brand loyalty it’s followers clearly show and from having an active community of users. It takes two to tango as they say.

        I only signed up for Aviary last night without realising it is being phased out so I’m not feeling the hurt that other long term users will feel.

        I would be interested in hearing some suggestions as to the possibility of open sourcing (or some of) the code or architecture to allow the community to continue to develop the suite or parts of it. This might even allow for the open-source community to start porting the software to HTML5 (or other relevant platform)? Could it possibly be done under such a licence that would allow Aviary to later incorporate subsequent developments back into their product range making it a cost effective activity? Just a thought…

  • bunnbackwardse

    Is there any way to purchase or download any of the apps? Like Myna? I don’t want to give it up, I’ve spent too much time on it.

  • shadowbrawler9000

    I agree with the previous comments by zerker2000 and bunnbackwardse. The Advanced Suite is an amazing collection of applications I have found extremely helpful over the years. Because of these apps, I’ve never had to shell out the money for something like Adobe Photoshop. Releasing a downloadable package of the suite, even for a small fee, would be a great decision. Even if you don’t support it anymore.  The Advanced Suite has played a great part in my life. I remember when I discovered it in middle school, I was so excited with what you had to offer that when my teacher asked us to write a report on something we liked, I wrote about the Advanced Suite! Since that day, I have used the Advanced Suite countless times. Even just to mess around. Especially in apps such as Phoenix, Peacock, and Myna. By retiring the Advanced Suite, you are also retiring many opportunities for young, aspiring artists. In my future, I can see myself becoming a graphic design. I would not have gotten this dream if not for the Advanced Suite your team has put together. It is simple enough for new users to learn, yet vast enough for expert designers. I have learned so much through using your suite of apps.  While many people are using your new photo app (Which I must say I am quite impressed with. Congrats on being in the top 25 iPhone apps list!),  it seems you are forgetting about the many people who still use your Advanced Suite. We all love the amazing and wonderful apps you have created for our use. And I’m sure many people would agree when I ask you this:

    Please do not retire the Advanced Suite.

    I completely understand not supporting the suite anymore. But retiring the suite altogether would be a tragedy.

    I wish you, the entire Aviary team, the best of luck and success as you venture forth with your new and truly amazing app. And I beg you, as do many others, to leave us the Advanced Suite. It is an essential part of our lives.

    ~Nick

  • Freddy Heppell

    Have you considered giving the code to somebody else to manage? Other companies do this sometimes. 

    • Avi

      Yes, over the last 6 months we explored this option and didn’t find any viable options. We will continue to explore possibilities but didn’t want to give anyone false hope and wanted to provide people with enough advance notice to prepare either way.

      • Nova

         Is there any option you could have the aviary phoenix photo editor as downloadable?

      • annoyed at advanced

        Me and the team at P110 Tech will be willing to host some, possibly all of it. It’s unlikely you’ll agree, but we will do it.

      • Spenser

        In these days we need more than a simple edit app on a phone. I have done extensive looking aviary image editor is (was) the one and only web app for doing image/design work in the cloud. It is (was) easy to use.

        SUGGESTION: Please keep the suite and make them ad supported. An ad could appear before opening or inside the program. I would put up with ads if only I could have aviary!

        OR: Make the programs a subscription service. As long as it was still within means I would pay!

        Either of these option would help offset your cost and save VERY useful and valuable products.

        Please reconsider! Your loyal customers are clearly indicating “thumbs down” to the closure. Follow your customers and they will take you far.

  • Daniel Mechtchanenko

    I know somebody who may be willing to host for you, contact me in case you’re interested :)

  • Mail

    What about users wishes ? Don’t we have the choice ?

    • Snetta

      NO. This is strictly about money. As everything in the western world. 

  • Leonardo Chaves

    What about users wishes ? and educators who use this site to teach students? Many people never had to shell out the money for something like Adobe Photoshop. But, it seems to me as an incentive to piracy, since it is already public and notorious the use of keygens and serial to get photoshop. We had something that could be an alternative to all this. But it seems they are pushing us into hiding.

  • Devinotter

    Will this affect any music creators?

    • http://twitter.com/TheMNeko Maneki

      Sadly, yes it will.

    • Snetta

      No. It won’t. If music making would depend on computers that woul b be sad. I loved myna, but I love to compse music an dunderstand it. Not play Lego!

      • http://twitter.com/jmontesadams Jake M.

        Seriously? I just can’t believe you. Audio editors are key components of electronic music, because you need to be able to order the sounds you make with synthesizers. Not to mention it’s helpful to acoustic artists who want to hear which mix sounds the best without playing every single one and listening while playing. Stop being such a bigot.

  • jason

    This hurts, the integration of Aviary with Google Docs was important to my school, especially as we are moving to a 1 to 1 environment with Google Chromebooks. Sad news!

  • Jon.

    No support ok why not. but why deleting it ? Just leave an access to your Flash based tool.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FQ6HKOFEKWRRORCTEQFOOSXNGQ Jimmy

    This is extremely upsetting.  I love making music for people and myself, and now I’m told that this editor will be retired.  What are people supposed to do who love creating and mixing music?  Is there any download or alternative website that allows the mixing and creating of music?

  • http://twitter.com/jdkshepard Jasmine DK Shepard

    It’s so sad that y’all can’t just leave it unsupported to be.  I worked as a Digital Literacy Instructor in West Oakland and so many youth and adults who can’t afford things like Photoshop or have computers of their own won’t have  a way to create the wonderful things they have been able to over the past few years. :(

  • http://twitter.com/skudatech skuda technologies

    Wow. I’ve been a registered user for years, but only recently started getting into Aviary. And then… BLAAAUUWW.

    Sad to hear. Quality suite

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      Thanks and I’m truly sorry.

      • http://www.facebook.com/homeSlice187 Greg Francis

        Remember this: ” We’re on a mission to make creation accessible to artists of all genres, from graphic design to audio editing. ” – Grrrr, don’t you see how much we love these apps, helps us! helps!

      • Gloria

        No you’re not, it’s all about the money. As usual.

        • http://twitter.com/skudatech skuda technologies

          You’re upset I’m upset Aviary ‘insiders’ are upset, we are all upset. So while I get your frustration, for the record, it’s unfair to say that because you don’t know the politics and what goes on in boardroom sessions at, not just A’ry, but just about any company. IF you do, you still don’t necessarily have the prerogative to make that kind of comment. It’s like if someone said YOU are a fraudster. No proof, just that proclamation.

          O_O. Now go to your room.And think about what you did.

          I’m no A’ry fanboy either. I’ll say this much. Sorry Aviary but your new products just don’t cut it. I tried to use them in beta, then when released. Then a couple of months later. The Advanced Aviary Suite was the KING of suites. The KING

      • http://twitter.com/skudatech skuda technologies

        Well, at least you have the courtesy to say sorry. But I have a question: what of the old data of the suite? Not user data, I mean code? What happen(s/ed) to it?

  • DEVINSHAPPY

    I agree with the previous two comments, I LOVE your audio software! Is there anyway that I can download it? I haven’t seen another freeware that offers as much as Aviary did.

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      Not at this time. I’m sorry!

      • Kinetikartz

        Hello and Congratulations.  AND THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING A FREE SERVICE TO US ALL!!

        • You say “not at this time.” Is that to say that there will be sometime in the future when it will be made available for purchase – it seems like a quick way to make a quick buck to fuel you alternate agenda=You have a loyal following (for good reason), and could be sold under the guidelines that support does not, and will not exist, no matter what problem the user may face.  This would, without a doubt, lead to a user generated forum, like the one you already provide, where users can find answers without distracting Aviary from their priorities (unless of course the option remains to keep a forum that centers around users who have purchased the software and understand that official Aviary support will never be considered by your team).   I’m sorry.  I’m rambling.  Just very upset with the situation, but I couldn’t be more thankful for the opportunities Aviary has made possible. 

        In summary, to sell an “as is” version would be a priceless asset to an artist like my self, a student with no comparable options to the numerous advantages to Aviary.

        Thanks for the freedom and it’s great to hear all of the other passionate users who have posted to this news, as well as the success of the Aviary Team.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/LVZR4FL3HFFUOX5RK6H4WOUUGM Motörhead

        First, let me thank you for having provided such a useful service for the past…I dunno how long I’ve been using Myna…I remember the two-million-dollar Madagascar Serpent-Eagle, if that’s any indication.

        I am not alone in appreciating what you and Michael Galpert hath wrought–judging from these comments, you are clearly killing off this suite before its time. If you have no plans for competing applications, why not allow certain Shockwave elements to be downloaded and run locally? 

        If it stays relevant, some clever dev will patch the package when it gets killed by a new Flash release. If not, it will die an organic death.

        If you can open up the source, you could release it yourself–call it something like aviary.localhost.hack.deb–and really distance yourself from the idea that you’ve left abandonware to clutter up the web.

        It’s certainly better than buying Digimix only to kill it three years down the road.

      • Jordan Rideout

        i don’t understand why it is you are being such a business concerned sight, i thought you were just trying to power creativity…AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY YOUR BEING MORE CREATIVE BY REMOVING SOME OF THE BEST PROGRAMMING YOU HAVE DEVOTED TO CREATIVITY!! i believe you have made a big mistake by removing the myna audio program as a priority and lowering the usage of your sight.

  • Jesse Morata

    This can’t end now. there’s gotta be another way to keep this going. Artists in this suite want to be successful at what they’re good at, and same here with me (I wanted to be a successful musician, and I’m currently focusing on that dream). If you shut down, how can I make new songs? You guys oughta work something out. Users in this site also wants to live their dreams as well. Photo editing, effects, the music. Man, if this shuts down, my dreams on being a musician will suddenly be gone. So please, work something,. I mean, there’s gotta be another way. 

    Sincerely,

    Hipsong25

    Future Known to be Dj Hipsong

    PS, you mean so much to us

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      Thanks Jesse - I amended my post with the explanation. Please see above.

      • tiendaadultos

        Thanks Avi

  • M.

    I really want to get into the field of graphic design, and Aviary was a great tool in helping me practice and get ready for a career that I really want. I love it because it’s free and easy to use, now if I want to continue I’m going to have to fork over an ungodly amount of money for Adobe Photoshop. I’m fifteen and I have no money. Guess it’s time for me to put graphic design on the side for now…I’m sure I’ll get it though :) Thank you for helping me realize my dream and getting to experience a wonderful thing. I hope Aviary will be able to continue somehow. :)

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      There are other great tools that are free – Gimp and Inkscape come to mind. Don’t give up!

      • http://www.facebook.com/homeSlice187 Greg Francis

        Those are all crap compared to Aviary tools! A whole Suite! Can’t you show all these comments to the share-holders? Don’t they want to make money?! Do the math and sell it and make a profit. Monthly subscription! 5 bucks please :)

        • http://twitter.com/sarahannelloyd Sarah Anne Lloyd

          I’d pay a monthly subscription for the suite. No question.

  • Spenser

    I use the advanced image editor all the time. It is amazing, and The ONLY option available. I need more than a basic edits app. I need a full suite. The web app was perfect for cloud work in my chrome browser. I understand the flash issue, but please reconsider making it an HTML5 app. Though tragic, if nothing else please leave the editors online with maybe a warning that it is unsupported.This is an extremely valuable resource! All of the comments in this thread are in agreement – your users want the advanced suite.

    Thank you for you time. :)

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      I amended my post with the explanation. Please see above and thanks!

  • aakash sheokand

    this is just so bad i was editing my song on aviary and now i am helpless .now i need to download audio editing software from the internet which are very costly … can anyone at aviary tell me a alternative

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      Sorry, we have no recommendations at this time, but will try to update with some.

      • TyrhinR

        so myna wont be up anymore IDC about anything except for myna! its all I use.

    • http://www.johnbehan.net/ John

      audacity -  http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ is an excellent audio editor for Windows/Linux/Mac

      • sdfgf

        I make beats on roc and edit them on my now what will I do?

        • http://www.johnbehan.net/ John

          Hi,

          Sorry for the very veyr late reply but I found this – http://www.rinki.net/pekka/monkey/

          It’s very basic but may help If you’re looking for something more advanced but costs money, check out Fruity Loops or Propellerhads Reason

  • http://twitter.com/TheMNeko Maneki

    It is truly a sad sight to such a beautiful thing come to an end. But is also a way for not only aviary but for us artists to move on and find a new path to creation and community. I am sad that I have had only 6 months on something this amazing, but all great things must come to an end. Even aviary. –MN

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      Thanks Maneki!

  • Rdrice

    I agree with shadow on the fact of being able to download the suites applications. That way,  the community can still use the tools (without support), and use a site that you do support as a home for the aviary forums.

    Any continuation of the aviary apps would be best, and full obliteration of it seems a little unnecessary.

    ~A user 

  • jellycakes999

    I’ve never considered Developer and I tried setting it up and I’m completely confused. I’ve never, ever been confused with this suite. You can’t just get rid of it. You’re walking out on many people who want to be creative beyond the ‘basics.’ Some people would rather have advanced aviary instead of the simple one-click thing.

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      The developer apps are for developers. But you can search the iOS app store for “Photo Editor by Aviary.” Sorry jellycakes!

  • Teri Mchargue

    I just want to thank you for making such an incredible app available for free all this time.  I always wondered how you could manage it!  As others have said, Aviary opened a whole new world to me.  I will miss this app immensely!  But wish you the best in your new endeavor toward success.

  • Aviary Advanced Suite Lover

    I just want to say thank you to Avi and the Aviary team for the great suite of products you have allowed us to use and experiment with over the past few years. I was disappointed when I read about the retirement of the Advanced Suite. I truly appreciate what a wonderful resource it has been for me and many others. I hope you do decide to make it available as a free download to those of us who are still madly in love with it, even if it is unsupported. I for one, would be willing to pay a small fee to be able to continue to use it. Thanks again.

  • Pdee999

    I HATE the fact that Aviary is leaving.  I’m a professional graphic designer and web professional and without Aviary I don’t know how I’ll survive.  My job currently provides me with Adobe but if I lost this job I will have absolutely no way to do freelance work.  At least, no way to do it without searching the net for 6 or 7 quality apps that I’ll have to download.  And they definitely won’t all come packaged in a web based suite like Aviary.  PLEASE, please, please develop a stand alone suite that isn’t server dependent.  I’ll pay!  As long as it’s not as expensive as Adobe.

  • LAILA HUSSEIN

    I love and need Myna and ROC ! Please leave them or release them as freeware.. you don’t need to offer support!

  • Enzerukurai

    I agree wholeheartedly with Spenser, please at lest leave the site up along with the editors and just have a warning on the homepage that it’s unsupported or make a HTML5 app. I love drawing, I love painting, and I completely love editing. Advanced Aviary has given me what fotoflexor never could and since i found this site my editing skills have improved more in a few months that it did it the couple of years with other editors.

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      I amended my post with the explanation. Please see above.

  • Cyberwolf

    Why retire them? What could this possibly accomplish? I have been using Aviary since I was in 8th grade, just messing around with music and art. Then these last two years I’ve been too busy. I’m graduated now, and once I finally have time to get back to my music creating, you deside to take that away? There are no other programs like the Aviary suite, as in being top of the line for free. Just because your expanding, dosn’t mean you get rid of the original. I don’t really have a problem with the photo editors, at least Paint.NET is capabable of a few things, but there is no other, at all, like Myna or ROC. And to finish off my rant, I’ve been creating a completely custom rock song using only beats from ROC, that song is to kick start my youtube channel, as the opening song to my videoes, and then I was eventually going to have a Machinima series and even a web series. I only had the Guitar sounds saved so far because it’s so hard to get all the sounds I need because I have to compress it, then save it, which all together takes me 10 minutes, just for one sound. I still have 48 sounds to save, that means 480 minutes of saving. Guess now I have to find out how to hook up my piano with full sound onto the computer… and learn how to play the piano too.

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      I amended my post with the explanation. Please see above.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1848867594 Savannah Graves

    Please make a download!! I will NOT let go of my phoenix!

  • hmnunez

    i just started using aviary and i got a recording demo finished with it and now it will be lost to a stupid photo editing app.

  • http://www.facebook.com/felix.kehrer Felix Leopold Kehrer

    I can understand the choice of retiring the graphic parts of the advanced suite, as there are plenty other ways of doing what they did. I don’t like the choice the developers made, but I can live with this. What I can’t accept is the retirement of the audio parts of the advanced suite. For everyone who doesn’t have a mac with garage band, it has been the best choice for years. There was nothing as simple and powerful as Roc for someone who didn’t want to blow thousands of euros/dollars on some piece of software that did basically the same. Because of this, I beg you, if you want to abandon the best piece of online editing that ever existed, then do it, but open the source so that others can pick up your work and make the best choice for editing on Windows available for the world once again!

    • Patrick Q

      Oh nice. “I can understand why you’re retiring the things I don’t use, but don’t kill the stuff I need.” Name some of the “many”other ways of doing what Peacock does. You probably can’t because that’s not the sort of thing you need. Don’t throw the rest of the applications under the bus just to lobby for what you want to keep. Your argument is completely valid for all the non-Phoenix tools. Don’t limit it. And don’t undermine the other tools. I have absolutely no use whatsoever for Roc or Myna. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t useful. I can see they have great utility (as your post clearly illustrates). Just as Peacock and the rest have utility to the rest of us. Let’s be on the same team.

  • Katie

    I have been using Aviary for about 2 years now ( time goes quick!) and just use it when I feel like creating some cool graphics, music or vector art. This is devastating news , because now I will always be bored on my computer. It feels like you are just ditching us users because your photo editor is making a lot of money, and the Advanced Suite isn’t. You could make the suite available for download, and let volunteers run it. This is a fantastic suite and all the effort that went into making these editors and creators would be wasted, just because you want more money.  

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      Katie, that simply isn’t true. If it were as simple as you describe we would have gone that route in a heart beat. We put in so much work and effort into the suite we certainly don’t want to see it closed down – doing so was a last resort as we realized there was no simple answer to providing it as a download or keeping it running.

  • Jane

    I think it would be best if you re-packaged them as download for a price.  I don’t really need Aviary tools myself, but I know there are so many people using them would gladly pay to download such wonderful tools – that way, you could use extra income to make improvements for your projects.  To merely delete them and go the same way the other company,  Picnik, went  is such a huge waste – a shame, really.  

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      The tools are server-reliant and therefore repackaging them so they can be downloaded would represent a significant undertaking that we cannot afford to do.

      • anthony j. marzano

        then why dont you just leave it open! myna is a one of a kind program that i spent 3 years trying to find! 3 YEARS AND I ONLY USED IT FOR ABOUT 5 MONTHS LIKE ONCE A WEEK! I WAS BUSY WITH SCHOOL SO I COULDNT USE IT! AND NOW YOUR TOSSING IT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! let volunteers run this site if you must but dont cancel the site because one thing is making more money than the other. and if you are making so much money on the photo editor then why dont you wait a little while make some more money and use that for the download or keeping the site running. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cristian-Hasbun-B/600967204 Cristian Hasbun B.

    your suite it’s really simple for education purpose…

    maybe you can release a educational pack with a server for files and students accesing from school or home in a setup made from the school)

    Give the all thing to community groups, and you have get much more love retribution from us… “the users”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cristian-Hasbun-B/600967204 Cristian Hasbun B.

    make a fund raise to open source it, and then leave a fork iniciative to build in HTML5… Maybe the comunity can do the conversion (like the big overhaull in blender, but at the same time of open source it)

    i know sounds like crazy, but blender was succesfull !!!

    (aviary has the fiber to success as opensource fork to HTML5)

  • ChrystoKun

    I wanna cry :C Aviary was  all for me  :c

  • Achromatic

    Oh wow! This is very upsetting. I just found about Aviary two weeks ago and I’ve been using it every day since. It’s probably one of, if not, the best things I’ve ever found online. I really hope you guys can find an option to completely getting rid of it. 

  • Patrick Q

    This is awful. It’s business, and I can’t fault you for that. But I don’t like it. Here’s why.

    If I want photo editing, there’s Photoshop, the GiMP and a million other options.  Heck even Adobe has 2 versions of the same thing: Photoshop and Elements, as well as an online flash based photoshop solution. Then there’s Pixlr, Photoscape, FotoFlexer, etc. Heck even the basic file browsers in Vista (all versions) and Windows 7 (Ultimate) contain crop, image enhancement, color correction, brightness, saturation correction, etc.

    So, which tools are you keeping? The only one that does the exact same thing as everything listed above. The one that does photo editing. The one that does the same thing I can find anywhere else on the internet. I already have GiMP installed on my computer, and G-drive for cloud storage. What does Phoenix bring to the table that I can’t already get elsewhere? Nothing. To me the only thing Phoenix offered was native integration with the other Aviary products.

    Yet, if I want a node-based design application for creating procedural textures, where the hell do I find that? I have no idea. Photoshop doesn’t do that. Phoenix doesn’t do that. But Peacock DOES. And the other tools? Same deal. Where do we get things that do what your other products did? Aside from using Audacity or Garage Band to replace Myna, there aren’t any other substitutes. At least, none that are available at anything approaching a reasonable price to a typical person.

    I’m not saying it’s your obligation to provide us these applications, or anything absurdly self-entitled like that. I’m just saying, it’s a massive disapointment that the only application(s) you are keeping is the one that already can be found by the dozens elsewhere on the internet, and that you are killing the applications that have no competitive equivalent.

    Does anyone know free alternatives to Peacock and the other applications? I’m particularly interested because what the hell am I going to do with a downloaded Peacock file? What else can read this? Are you going to make your no-longer-supported toolset available as a final downloadable option? If not, what’s the point of the file download option?

    Very disappointing… If all you keep is Phoenix, I see no purpose to continue use of your service. As I said, I already have GiMP and cloud storage… This has always been my one big concern about relying on any cloud-based softare solutions. What happens if you decide to pull the plug? 

    So now you are doing exactly that. Pulling the plug on the applications that truly added value and keeping the single appliation that is neither unique nor compelling without the rest of the suite. Thanks. Enjoy your future competing as yet another paint and image editor.

    • Sweg

      This. I JUST found the advanced tools, even though I’ve known about Aviary forever. Why was I never interested in Aviary? I thought it was only a photo-editing tool, and I already have plenty of photo-editing tools. I was impressed by the advanced tools and about so sign up, only to see the notice on them being discontinued. The only reason to use your services is what you are removing. Goodbye Aviary.

  • Zazser

    Why don’t you just leave them online, why you don’t just convert them to HTML5, there’s an efficient tool doing that, why do you have to remove them? It’s nonsense… I’ve discovered aviary just a few months ago and i’m going to lose it soon.

    • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

      I amended my post with the explanation. Please see above.

      • Ed Co

        Why don’t you stray away from the new direction? Make at least page for donations!

  • John Behan

    Sorry to hear this. I’ve used Aviary in class with my students for the past two years and have found it to be excellent. I’m sure this decision wasn’t made easily. Is there any hope of getting the advanced suite as a download? maybe as an Air app? It would be a shame for this great set of tools to be lost to the ether I posted about this at http://www.johnbehan.net/2012/07/aviary-to-retire-aviary-advanced-suite.html maybe the links at the end will be useful to someone and I’d like to hear form anyone with alternatives to Aviary.

  • http://twitter.com/avimuchnick Avi Muchnick

    ======================= EDIT ADDED JULY 25th, 2012: A number of commenters have asked why this change was necessary (i.e. why can’t we just leave the apps running unsupported?). I should have communicated that better in this announcement and apologize. There are a number of reasons, which I’ll illustrate here, but first, please realize that this announcement represented a last resort for us. If there was anything that logistically made sense we would not have made the decision to close the suite.  So why aren’t we just leaving it running unsupported? There are a number of reasons, all important: 1) Lack of time / resources. Any time spent fixing bugs (or hiring staff to fix bugs), is time spent away from our new direction. The amount of work the suite requires to maintain is too big to sustain with incremental maintenance. Flash is constantly releasing new versions of their player. Browsers are constantly releasing new versions as well. Each change represents a potential introduction of bugs. If we would leave the suite running, but unsupported, it would quickly turn into a suite of broken junk. Not only would I not want that outcome for something we all worked so hard on, it would reflect badly on the company’s ability to create great software – which is crucial under our current direction.  2) It’s really expensive and we will not recoup those costs. The suite alone costs us several thousand dollars a month in hosting fees. Any time spent continuing to maintain the suite still costs us a lot of money. There is no way to recoup those costs and building in some kind of new business model to do so at this stage would be a tremendous (and probably futile) distraction. Investors in our newest round provided us with capital to focus on our new direction and we need to use those funds to maximize our traction under the new direction. 3) Flash is declining.Even if we would spent the money to continue to host AND maintain it, we would be supporting a platform that would potentially disappear in the near future, instead of building on platforms that will be around for a while (native mobile and HTML5). Sorry, but even if we were continuing on our old path, we would have eventually made the decision to retire our flash apps in favor of new HTML5 or mobile apps written on a platform that we knew would be around for a while. There are other additional reasons too, but those listed are probably the most important. I hope that helps explain the situation a bit better.

    • Antechno777

      What are the main logistical reasons not to make the server/client available for download with source, and how much money would a kickstarter campaign need to raise to offset said logistical reasons?

      • zerker2000

        ^that was me typing wrong name btw

    • jordan

      I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR NEW DIRECTION, IM NOT GOING TO USE YOUR SIGHT AFTER THIS CHANGE!

    • cobra405

      Oh mate this is the first time i have read all these comments and i have to say i feel your pain :( people give the guy a brake ! I know more than most this is a sad moment, i have been a Mod on Aviary for years now. but who do you think it is affecting the most ? the one man who’s baby this was from the start Avi. and if you think for one second that he and all at aviary have not looked at every possible angle and are still looking then you must be mad ! stop asking stupid questions,read the statements and get on with your life. oh and one last thing PS elements is not that expensive and will do sooooo much more than phoenix ever did.

  • Snetta

    I would certainly pay for the services! But this seems no option for you! Does it?

    • Sar

      Thats one reason I use aviary, though. Because it’s free.

  • http://www.facebook.com/omglizzi Lizzi Jane Smith

    I second what Shadowbrawler9000 said. I love the Advanced Suite. I use it almost every day. 

    Please don’t shut it down. 

  • Ed Co

    Please, at least sell your suite to another company, with all the users and creations. That’s one way to “get rid” of your Advanced Suite.

  • David Browne

    Can I just say a big THANKYOU! to the team at Aviary for developing such wonderful tools and community. I understand and can relate to the financial contraints of maintaining a platform such as this, and that the focus has had to move for economic viability of Aviary and it’s new endeavours. I with the team well and will be keeping an eye on future developments.  Sometime when you love something you have to set it free. Thankyou for all the fun and enjoyment I’ve had personally using your tools.  Keep up the great work!

  • ANNHIRO

    Sad face… someone start a petition to make these apps freeware.

  • Tashuan16

    i was growing in roc beats in myna…i felt that i was goin to bring a good name to aviary.com … i was receiving alot of support and i believe that in a few months or a year..i would be huge on the internet…but onw what am goin to do to my youtube page..that has several aviary sonfs..i as well get paid by youtub…now with no music my income will decline…please hold it off for a couple more moths

  • annoyedatadvanced

    I will be prepared to host all of it, as long as aviary send me the files, which is unlikely :(

    • annoyed*at*advanced

      Also, why do you want to get rid of all your team’s hard work?

  • Omari D

    After reading this article, I now understand why the new direction is taking place. http://mashable.com/2011/11/11/flash-mobile-dead-adobe/

    Despite this, I have a business proposition that will require integrating two of your products (Myna, Roc) into a new social networking site concept I’m currently developing. The revenue projections are significant and will cover the costs of migrating to HTML5. Its worth your time to review what I have to propose.

    Let me know how to get the document to you and I will gladly fax/email it asap.

  • annoyedatadvanced

    I know the reasons, but this is still a bad decision, you WILL lose thousands of users in a day, me including, I was in it for your audio software, I loved myna, could you please give me a copy, I really would be happy hosting it. :(

  • RaphaniacZXV

    This was kind of obvious by the way the company was moving

    I just don’t get why they decided to do all of this in flash in first place, is you had spend some time in native applications you guys could made perfect editors that doesn’t need so much money on Hosting or continuous bug fixes, multiplatform is not a big deal at all, if you make it for Windows you can run it in Mac and Linux, it was a big mistake and now we would pay for it…

    Really sad to hear all of this, I would try to make the best of this last days

  • Nori Cartwright

    I will agree with everyone else. Release the Advance Suites (especially Myna) as a freeware program or something we can buy. I enjoy Myna and the Quantum Tracks Library it provides. It’s helped me, and I JUST started using it a week ago. I’d like to have it as a .exe, and even if I can’t upload songs to the server, it’ll be fine. To reiterate, I agree with the comments about releasing the Advance Suite as an exe (especially Myna and it’s Quantum library).

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/6KJXOHKSR5K6YKVK5DD5OGMAT4 Chris

    I think the saddest part is that I will not switch from Photoshop to something new. I have mastered photoshop (as best as any common user can). Why would I change to a system created by a company that abandons the users at the command of investors based on “declining market use” . You are leaving a valuable niche and popular market to go against a flooded market head to head with some of the most powerful software development companies in existence.    

  • Ann

    Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what are you retiring? The entire Advanced suite? Or just Peacock? I read the comments and apparently you are still going to keep Phoenix? I would appreciate it if someone could clarify this for me.

    • Jarod Newman

      The whole thing is being shut down except that stupid little photo editor. A terrible idea I think.

  • nemonico101

    And why not convert the apps to HTML5? If this is about money, why not the alternative to pay an monthly fee? I like Myna but not for the program itself, which is very good (there’s another audio editors) but for the Quantum Track Library wich is great to compose music for shortmovies, animations… is there another way to access the tracks? I try to register is the APM Music web but i can’t cause i’m outside de the USA…

  • i<3aviary

    noo! some of these people are willing to host these, why not give it to them instead of shut it down! its so sad! i hope you make an HTML version soon! im so sad! i just joined a few days ago! how about you guys do a fundraiser to keep your site while we try to bring back Flash!

    • i<3aviary

       btw, you only have an app for Phoenix! i dont have an iphone! besides, phoenix is easier to used then photoshop or gimp or pixlr! PS: there are no other vector editors in the universe! pls keep Raven!

  • Valerie Jane

    i will sit here and wait for the HTML version to come out after you shut it down!

  • i<3aviary

    MOBILE SUCKS

  • Matohfnfan

    So, you completely forget about the people who use it on their computers? There’s talk of apps…but what of normal PC usage? It doesn’t make sense to kill a good portion of your market. The one app may be being downloaded, but your PC customer base will completely disappear. It sounds like a pretty foolish to end it so soon, especially since HTML5 appears to still be in development according to the few online sources I was able to find on the subject after reading the explanation. The audio editors are great tools, and PC users don’t have many freeware or low-fee programs to use. Roc and Myna are amazing for exactly that reason! I just got started about a week or two ago, only to receive a notice that it will end in just over a month. I will continue to use the online suite while it still exists, but don’t look for ANY of my business in the future.

    • Matohfnfan

       Like a pretty foolish decision*

  • Kayjaycali

    Well then, I hope that a peacock-like app for iOS is on that path! Such a bummer to see aviary go.

  • LAILA HUSSEIN

    If you convert your programs into commercial downloadables, it will be good for you and us.

  • imaidiotweb

    Couldn’t you give the code to the Apache Incubator. They’ve done wonders with OpenOffice

    • Ed Co

      Good Idea!

  • http://twitter.com/jmontesadams Jake M.

    I hate to say it, but you made a terrible decision. Hundreds if not thousands of people use this site for advanced visual/audio editors, and you’re going to take it away and keep the one tool that you can get anywhere else as an app? What kind of decision is that? At least rewrite the tools on HTML5 before closing the Flash ones. You’re throwing the majority of your users under a bus. Now I have to shell out $400 for a quality audio editor like WaveLab. When you lose all of your customers, we’ll see how long it takes for you to come running back to the full suite.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1379940178 Chidinma Off

    I’m sorry to see this go as well!

    As a college student maintaining marketing for a few different organizations, Aviary was the basis of what brought me into graphic designing. Everything I do used this program via PC as an alternative to Photoshop (which I am so sad I’ll have to buy in a few weeks!). Good luck with whatever it is you all decide to do!

  • Brie

    I still can’t believe you’re getting rid of the advanced tools. They have been lifesavers for me, so amazingly simple to use with great results. Why must something so good go to waste? Aren’t there already enough photo-editing programs in the world? Can’t you just leave my my Myna? :’( The advanced suite contains some of the best software tools I have ever used. I couldn’t care less about adding “Indieglow” filters to my pictures. I would BUY any of the apps on the Advanced Suite, they’re worth it to me. I read your apology, but you’re still killing my precious Myna bird. Good luck without us.

  • Barbara-Paraprem

    The vector editor dosent works anymore! It loads, and loads, and loads… endlessly! But i cant use it! Allways: “Setting up…”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001737121202 Jamila Surpris

    I am so saddened by this. I was just getting on again today to work on my music mix and I see this~>… It is really disheartening because for so long I have tried to find myself in something that I love. For days, months even years, that journey continued. When I found this website, I immediately felt at home. The easy of access was great, the instruction, and the options and capabilities for creativity that it offered to creators utterly impressed me. Because of this company, I had found another field that I love and enjoy; an art that truly inspires me to do and try anything (constructive). This company does not know how much I have appreciated what they have done for sooo many people, especially people like me who once were lost and now feel found. It has made such an impact on the young generation. By giving us something constructive to do that encourages both creativity and freedom to be ourselves, without the burden of cost, we were making ourselves useful to the society of the arts (and just about anything else you could apply this awesome advanced suite to in life). This was a big part of my life, and it will truly be missed. This company made me smile “ear to ear” on a daily basis (something that is so hard to do with everything that is going on in the world now~). So, I beg, if there is any other way than to completely get rid of the Advanced Suite, please consider it (even if it involves payment for usage), I ask that you could please ponder on it. Without this company 11 million students/users (as stated) will be without their needed classroom materials for success. 

  • Animals4abm

    I have spent all of my time since 2009 playing with Pheonix, Falcon, Toucan, Peacock, Raven, Myna, and Roc.

    I don’t know how to use anything else.

    Someone help me.

  • Jack Jones

    For those, who are looking for great alternative http://www.sumopaint.com is a fully featured “online photoshop”

  • Lmc6837

    Avi and Company – Thank you for giving us this wonderful tool for free for so many years. I will be so sad to say goodbye; Aviary is like an old friend.  I agree with many below – I would gladly pay to have a download with no support. Best of luck to you all in the future. thank you for giving us all the heads up. Thank you for your gift of Aviary.

  • SergioZygmunt

    Couldn’t you just release the apps as a freeware download package? 

  • Guest

     Please make it all available as an offline Software Suite that is open source, these programs are going to be VERY powerful with an active coding commnunity

  • Jarod Newman

    Let me shorten your little speech for you (for the people who didn’t quite get it):  

    “screw all the good things I made. I’m gonna stop working on everything I’ve done except a small photo editor that is exactly the same as almost every other one out there and limits creativity to simply editing photographs” This is exactly what you sound like! You had to make a HUGE article on this, and I just retold this in roughly 2 sentences.  I honestly don’t care about your little photo editors, i used those ones least. I could easily get GIMP or paint.net and get ten times better results. It’s fine to divert your focus onto other things, but don’t completely abandon the suite either. And if you’re about to say ”The suite alone costs us several thousand dollars a month in hosting fees. Any time spent continuing to maintain the suite still costs us a lot of money”  THERE’S A SOLUTION! Make a zip folder with all the apps in it and also include a small developers kit. There are lots of people out there that would be willing to keep updating your work! Think about your decision man.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/V563VLU7OHZFRTYBV5OYIQBT3A Oana

      You are completely right! I don’t care about the little photo editors, I use GIMP for that…. Don’t throw away some really good things! We need them….. I looked for this kind of audio editor for a long time and when I finally find it….. IT RETIRES!! I am going nuts! I need it for school, for a friend, for making my dreams come true and I can go on with the reasons we need it….

      • Allison

        Right me too. I’m a fashion designer who needs this for editing my sketches. No other site compared to the advanced suite. Photoshop is a fortune, and is completely out of the question as my family & I must pay for expensive design school.

      • http://www.facebook.com/emma.barlow.902 Emma Barlow

        Heck yes!!!

    • LazyAndroid

      I can shorten it even further “I am gonna go George Lucas on you”.

    • shadowbrawler9000

      Again, flash keeps updating, and browser keep updating. You could download it, but just like Avi said, new versions of flash and browser present new bugs and glitches. Avi knows what he is doing. He wouldn’t let this happen unless it was the only option. What his new app is doing is incredible, and is helping him find his future. Let it go. All good things come to an end.

  • Tiger

    I’ve noticed loading things in the apps takes significantly longer (atleast for me) to load. Things are changing people, it’s happening. :(

    I just want to say that you guys have changed changed the way i think about musical production. And has led me from the average kid with the crummy guitar. To the local star with a studio in his house. I’ve started producing my own music, not simply mixing samples in a browser based set (lol myna is fun). Developers of aviary, you have changed my life. I hope you become successful with your photo editing tools. But let’s face it, there’s hundreds of applications the same as yours, and many of them are better. I hope you think about this decision more. If you REALLY need to shut it down. Please give us a folder with the apps in it. I’m even willing to pay.

    • Jarod Newman

      Goodbye aviary! You really did change my life! Time to dust of the old jupiter 80 synth and start making some more music! Goodbye, I’ll come back every now and then to see if they’ve changed their minds.

  • Su (WalrusGumboot)

    Are you selling it off to another company at least? If not, could you open source it?

    • Ed Co

      Open source it!

  • Jreskus

    I really liked your effects editor.  I don’t know of any alternative that allows that sort of workflow.  Blender is the closest thing and it doesn’t really do it as easily as your product.  I have often thought that I would purchase a reasonably priced standalone version of your effects editor.  Would you consider funding it with crowdsourcing?    If so, I would contribute.   

  • http://www.facebook.com/homeSlice187 Greg Francis

    I would gladly pay for the advanced suite and I’m sure others would too. Why don’t you capitalize on all the effort gone into creating this entire suite of highly functional apps if this is about money. I never understood how all that awesomeness was free anyway. Just let us subscribe for 5 bucks a month. Soon you’ll have 5 million per month. How could you remove these creative tools, ridiculous.

  • http://www.facebook.com/homeSlice187 Greg Francis

    BTW – I think your making a very bad decision. Why not market it and sell it to the masses. Why throw an entire suite of perfectly amazing apps away? Sell them to the creative community!

  • Jordan Rideout

    I was always looking for software like this but i was only 11 at the time and now im 14 and have been non stop using this ever since. i loved myna becuz it powered MY creativity with music and i produce amazing remixes of my favorite songs that i would rather listen to! … i think the abandoning of the advanced aviary suite it complete BULL SHIT its the best part of your creation! i think that you should abandon your photo editing software and focus more on the music editors that you have, WITHOUT THEM, IM NOT GOING TO BE USING YOUR SIGHT ANYMORE!

    • Ed Co

      Abandon your photo editing software… you’re kinda right!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Lamp/1691674297 Don Lamp

    Flash usage is shrinking, not going away entirely. Flash itself is slowly becoming more robust (albeit in a gaming-oriented direction), and the Flash 3D capabilities are proving to be amazing. It seems foolhardy and premature to eliminate popular apps that are written in Flash simply because Flash is no longer the code language du jour.

  • :(

    Why? I use these editors for EVERYTHING!!! I write songs and use them, write plays and movies and use them… Every else uses them too! Please don’t take these away. This is really the only (free) program that lets me do these things.

  • Robert Holford

    Please, just release Myna and Roc, if nothing else, as a download. They are amazing, powerful, and most importantly, free programs. They could (and may have already) set young musicians down a glorious path. There are literally THOUSANDS of free photo-editing apps with all their bells and whistles, but in my extensive search of the Internet, Myna and Roc are the only free Audio editors of high capabilities. Even if you have to use advertisements, or make them a download, please, keep Roc and Myna alive.

  • Bheid

    It’s funny how it was all about providing free, easy to use apps for photo artists, musicians, and graphic artists until the money started coming in from mobile apps. Now it’s about getting that 99 cents for a set of filters on a cell phone “photo editor.” Avi is a hypocrite in every sense of the word. You claim to be “democratizing” creativity, but I fail to see how. If you think your basic photo filter app is going to spure creativity you are full of cow dung. The flash apps are what spured creativity. These apps gave people two things…..1)access to advanced applications that normaly cost hundreds of dollars and 2) a place to learn to use those programs to create truly UNIQUE pieces of art or music. Anybody can take a cell phone picture, slap a filter effect on it, and call it “art.” Only people who were able to develop a set of skills are able to take a photo with a camera and transform that image into something amazing. Your flash apps allowed those skills to be developed, your mobile app will NEVER EVER DO THAT! All in all, I’m not surprised. Just don’t feed me a line of B/S about trying to democratize creativity. You’re in it for the money and that’s fine, just man up and say it. I can’t wait until someone comes along and creates a new Peacock like app, and I hope that charge money for it. I would be more willing to pay for a product from a company that states up front that it’s in it for the cash than to support a company with a “free” app (even though those extra filter packs cost 99 cents) that is lead by a hypocrite.

  • Maximiliano Fernández

    Open Source the suite! There’re lot’s of developers (like me) that are willing to transform this awesome suite to play well in the HTML5 world. Hey, it’s not the end. SHARE THE CODE. Make a kickstarter, like someone else said, and let us finance the open sourcing. You don’t have to push all the suite open source, just the front end apps. The server? We can, as a community, make one for ourselves.

    Please, don’t let us down.

    Rammserker (early adopter)

  • Guest

    if it is too hard to maintain the online version make a downloadable program suite. you could host it on a single page of your site thus reducing costs, there would be little to no inconvenience to any users and the only thing aviary staff would have to deal with is making a flash program available offline which is not at all hard.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alex.flavion Alex Flavion

    If so, please visit flavion.com. This is the great photo editor service on flash.

    • Kixle

      but, a photo editor is what aviary is keeping, it’s why they’re retiring the advanced suite, so, flavion isn’t a very useful suggestion

  • thisisrad

    To everyone looking for an alternative to Myna. Check out http://www.soundation.com. It’s really good.

    • Kixle

      i looked into that, it isn’t near as good as any of these tools because, it requires a paid subscription

      • Mark

        yup. free is kinda what I’m looking for. I stumbled upon Roc this last summer and then found out about the rest of the suite. It seems a shame to obliterate such well-built programs. Best wishes for the future

        ps. I think open source is the best way to keep this baby alive

  • Geneva

    THIS IS SO UNFAIR. :( I mean this site is so good Why the hell do you need to close this.. this site is the only site I find so Handy! How can I do Remixing now? :( If you are going to close this you should’ve recommended some good sites for us.

  • http://twitter.com/Pyroshadow97 Adam Ramirez

    Are you guys serious?! I have a huge series i want to create and AVIARY is the only program that i can effectively use in my families budget!!! Comics and short animations are what i wanted to make! but now that this is going away i cant do SCRAP!!! (transformers word for “Crap” i think) At least release this as a downloadable program or something! I NEED THIS TO START MY CAREER!!!!!!!!

  • ivana

    Since this is happening, is there another web based music editor that anyone can recommend??

  • http://www.facebook.com/emma.barlow.902 Emma Barlow

    I am a student and I use your audio editor for so much! Leadership team things, assemblies, Projects, assignments! I am very disappointed with Aviary right now. I have looked long and hard for a site as good as this. Please at least direct us where we might be able to find something just as good.

  • Guest

    But you can make the Advanced Suite open source! That way, all efforts of making these multimedia Flash editors will not be put to complete waste. And imagine how strong the suite will be in the hands of an active coding community?!

  • dont do it man

    just found this site! figured it out and im comp stupid! please dont end it for good. this is a blast, to see what creativly comes to live, its what drives me

  • Guest

    I am aware that you all agree on this decision, but I am certain you also agree on another very big thing, that WILL occur as soon as you delete the code, you will lose, hundreds to thousands of users!

    It’s all well and good to get a few hundred users on a paint editor, but look at your statistics, how many people use the photo editors and other little things compared to the entire advanced suite? It should be the other way round, FOCUS on the adv advanced suite, which includes a paint editor, and retire the other stuff, rendered obsolete, by the advanced suite?

    If all else fails, I would be willing to attempt to host the code on my own site, but I couldn’t buy it off you or anything, I could just offer it to your existing users, crediting you for the creation of it.

  • the curious angel

    I hope the source code will be released so people may host it on dedicated server, vps or as well as their own home servers.

    I said it so because, if they can host it by their own, they can still continue developing their creativity on-the-web, online or offline, while at the same time you all strict the software’s trademars, logos et cetera.

    You can see many scripts out there that are available to download by peoples. You doesn’t even need to support (or just require a payment for support etc).

    Just my two cent. Your tools are “extremely” useful for you to just “vanish” or “destruct” it all the way.

    Just my two cent :)

  • Kixle

    this is just like all the cool youtube videos i’ve found, i find them, and then it turns out new ones will never be released, and the old ones are going to be deleted, thanks for ruining my day

  • http://twitter.com/SammiRaRa Samara Wood

    I’ve only just discovered the advanced suite and i’m so disappointed it’s going to close. As a music teacher, I’m INCREDIBLY impressed with Myna. It’s probable the best online mixing tools I’ve ever come across and would love to use it with my students. PLEASE reconsider keeping it up or going ahead with an HTML5 version. I know A LOT of teachers who would be interested! I would even pay to do so!

  • http://twitter.com/RenoOcta Reno Octa Achmad F.

    Remake there tools with HTML5 and then pack it with your now product, maybe?

  • http://jakesiegers.com/ Jake

    Yeah. Make the suite a free download. Or open source it. Or something. Someone can learn from it. I still like using it as well.

  • Music Teacher

    Oh no! I am a music teacher, and my students and I use Myna all the time. It is free, easy, and offers enough editing and an abundance of clips to keep us busy and excited about music. It sounds like there are no plans to offer anything with music mixing. It is cost-prohibitive to buy ANYTHING in the music department, and we rely on these free, online mixers and composition tools. Sad day. We were going to “orchestrate” a silent movie this year using Myna.

  • http://twitter.com/sarahannelloyd Sarah Anne Lloyd

    As some other people said, I would totally pay for a subscription to these. Are you going to attempt something LIKE the full suite in HTML5? Or something more in-depth with native mobile? (As much as I like the Aviary mobile app, it’s not too versatile at all)

  • http://www.facebook.com/ingrid.curtis Ingrid Curtis

    Please make them into a download suite! I’m currently a high school senior and can’t afford the Adobe equivalents of your programs! I rely heavily on Aviary and all of its tools. I’m in the middle of developing my portfolio for college and rely on Aviary to complete it. Please make a suite available!

  • Tomás

    Yes, it was fantastic while it lasted, but remember that people began to rely on this, and you’ve pulled the rug from underneath them. There is nothing else to turn to.

    Offload the code to the open-source community- or use your new contacts to sell it on Amazon (jk)- it can’t hurt you or your investors.

    (Does it really make sense to pigeon-hole yourself into a crowding market? When the inevitable squeeze occurs a broad base in both loyal consumers and quality products will serve you well.)

  • Guest

    So, what originally was one of the best online image editors is now going to become something to which there are multiple better options avaliable? I really think this will end up as a failure.

  • Robin

    Please release these in some way, it’s such a shame to see such brilliant tools just disappear off the face of the earth. Release them for paid downloads or something, they’re such fantastic tools.

  • puppie207

    bye forever i guess. i LOVED the audio editing tool, it helped in so many ways. but now its over.

  • P110

    I have attepmted to get myna on my own site here: http://aviarytools.comlu.com/myna/ (click myna.html) and I can’t get it to load, I’ve tried to get all of the files locally but it just won’t load.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Emil.limesta Emil Alicic

    Well can you guys not upload anymore updates and attempt to make a free stand-alone client? this would be a huge help :)

  • TouchscreenDystopia

    Lol, we got punk’d. Mobile app.

    Good one Avi.

  • TOBYGYRL

    this is the ONLY place i could get song ideas for my show and BOOM u take it down wtf this is the most popular website in my school, neighborhood ect. y y y y y y y y i get my piks all fixed up with picnik.com or wat is now google+ thats two of my fav. website ever gone >:’{(

  • James

    The HTML5 app has nothing unique about it, there are a lot of similar editors around. The advanced suite though is completely unique, there is nothing to match peacock, roc, or anything else in the suite. Just please, make it open source or charge people to use it. It is up to you, but just listen to us, the users of this awesome set of tools, and give us the advanced suite!

    • Give me Raven

      To true I have to make a magize for home I need Raven

  • J

    Please, please don’t let it all just die. Please consider releasing the applications as freeware or opensource or something! It would be a crying shame to just abandon it and let it die :(

  • Guest

    the software will be deleted in two days now :( Our last chance to save it is to backup on http://archive.org/web/web.php anybody knows if that is possible?

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Lawliet

    i don’t want to give up the advanced suite. Because i can’t find another music making program like myna that is actually good. There are other Photo editors like GIMP, Photoshop, etc. If you shut the the suite then less people will be using Aviary.(Thats just my guess) The advanced suite is uniqe in a way. If you can’t run the advanced suite the advanced suite because the “waste of resources” then why don’t you get another “team” to run the suite.

  • Nori Cartwright

    Looks like the advanced site is gone. It’s only 10:42 in my area. Goodbye Myna! I’ll miss you!

  • RaphaniacZXV

    I’m here, 2 minutes before the 15 of September of the 2012, watching the end of the Aviary Suite and Tools, hope I never loose something like this again, Goodbye Aviary, I’ll miss you

  • Smoncrief75

    please listen, we need this website, and whether or not you guys realize it yet, you need it too. this is a website that has helped me makeover 75 creations and has helped me follow my dreams, to see it go away now would only set me back to step 1, a level i worked so long and hard for to reach. And there are many people like me on aivary right now who need it as mch as i do. you guys need it too.

    • ifeellikeacobbsalad

      get a job. buy others that aren’t cloud based. problem solved. unless you used peacock for animation, pleading comments aren’t worth the effort – economy keeps those in charge responsible for decisions and it’s hard to be responsible when those whom they developed the programs for are now criticising aviary’s efforts to remain relevant in the industry. i’m sure they’re listening, and maybe even feeling your disappointment (they were beginners to at some point), but you gotta move on and make your next approach on deciding a tool to use be based on control of content and supported by developers who don’t consider it a suicide mission in the name of “avoiding step one” for individuals who aren’t willing to adapt their work/tools to the ever-evolving software and it’s limitless potential beyond creative expression for personal joy. bottom line, if you wanna keep growing and following a dream, then you’ve got to get serious, make sacrifices and buy professional tools, and stop making excuses with blindness toward the reality of a situation, and accusing it of stunting your growth simply because you’re afraid of change. I say this simply because your words were mine about a month ago. Just look around and you’ll find options that will inspire you. Look into Adobe Creative Cloud. :) All kind of amazing stuff that could redefine you expectations in materializing an idea. There’s gotta be a million inspiring quotes about dreamers not giving up on their dreams in the face of a hardship. You say it’s your dream. Move on. Now. There’s not a second to lose.

  • David Sutherland

    This is kinda funny.

    Company makes a hugely popular product, can’t figure out how to monetize, so alienates large portion of their user base.

    Kinda clueless, no?

    Aviary = angry user experience. Kinda want to pass on that brand result now.

  • aryan daidara

    very nice…

  • http://twitter.com/vivian41_5 vivian

    hello

  • http://twitter.com/vivian41_5 vivian

    me gustaria cantarle al mundo enterro

  • http://twitter.com/vivian41_5 vivian

    kiero cantar para toda las persona del mundo

  • direitos humanos

    se.c.pontes@hotmail.com To: jose.c.pontes@hotmail.com Subject: caramujo gigante afroicano

    Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:08:13 +0300

    Jose de Pontes

    11 de novembro

    Ele tem fórmula para exterminar caramujo, mas, autoridades não lhe reconhecem

    senadores e senadoras , nos estamos ao lado da realidade que todos cidadaoes devem saberem que esta praga pelos descasos ja invadiu tudo e todos estados, mas hoje ser um negro no brasil, aqui esta a prova sendo pobre nao adianta ser inteligente nao existe qualquer apoio,e por este motivo que no dia da conciencia negra nao existe muito a comemorar, exemplo o unico negro do brasil a criar a maior formulars para caramujo gigante africano

    abandonado sem qualquer apoio politico,sera que mudaremos, se queremos estar na frente nosso brasil se nao valorizamos o que e nosso, senadores varias cartas foi enviado ao presidente desta casa jose sarney mas nao responde nenhuma, so o senadores , eduardo suplicy e o marcelo crivella deram atençao ,mas que agora todo o brasil, saibam que existe a soluçao, para os caramujos gigantes africanos e tambem aos pombos urbanos , tudo com produtos naturais sem o uzo de venenos , sao os menos favorecidos que sofrem com este problemas, e o sus nao tera condiçoes de cuidar das pessoas caso venha ocorrer doenças graves

    José Pontes, guerra ao Achatina Fulica

    ZECA PRETO MANDOU CARTA A LULA E A MARINA DA SILVA

    (11.01.06) José Pontes, pesquisador autodidata se diz revoltado pela, segundo ele, discriminação que sofre, porque não tem o seu trabalho de combate ao caramujo africano reconhecido pelas autoridades sanitárias e de saúde do país. Zeca Preto, como é conhecido no Vale da Ribeira, interior de São Paulo, escreveu para o presidente Lula e para a ministra do meio ambiente Marina da Silva, contando a sua luta vitoriosa contra o caramujo gigante africano.

    “Sou pesquisador autodidata e passei oito anos de minha vida pesquisando o comportamento do caramujo gigante africano até encontrar uma solução para acabar com essa praga que assola o nosso país. Nestes oito anos passei fome, frio e tive momentos que não tinha nem onde dormir. Minha primeira campanha de combate ao caramujo foi em minha cidade natal, Juquiá-SP, depois em Registro, Pariquera-açu, Iguape e outras cidades no Vale do Ribeira. Esta região possui uma riqueza biológica incalculável, porém, tem um dos maiores índices de pobreza do Estado, inclusa na lista dos treze maiores bolsões de miséria do País”, revela José Pontes.

    O pesquisador conta que o caramujo gigante africano entrou no Brasil no dia 28 de março de 1987 para ser criado como “escargot” e, sem mercado para consumo, foi abandonado no meio ambiente. “Como o clima é propício, ele logo se proliferou, tornando-se uma praga. Eles colocam de 250 a 300 ovos em três meses, tendo quatro desovas por ano e se alimentam de tudo que é tipo de vegetação e coisas imundas: tipo fezes humanas e de animais, podendo contaminar o ser humano pelo simples toque, através de seu muco, que é uma baba a qual solta a cada movimento”, alerta Zeca Preto.

    Zeca que pesquisou por oito anos o comportamento do molusco, descobriu que o mesmo percorre 30 metros por noite e coloca seus ovos até 50 cm dentro do solo. “Ele acasala de 12 a 14 vezes por noite e é hermafrodita, mesmo assim precisa se fecundar. O animal que à primeira vista parece inofensivo pode causar as seguintes doenças: perfuração intestinal, tumores abdominais, tumores do abscesso, meningite e cegueira permanente. Na região, houve o caso de uma criança que engoliu um filhote de caramujo. A minha preocupação é que a saúde sempre diz que nunca houve um caso provocado pelo caramujo, mas será que isso é verdade? Depois de morto, ninguém descobre”, observa o pesquisador.

    “No Vale da ´Miséria´ (Ribeira) um pobre quando precisa de um oftalmologista leva até quatro meses para conseguir a consulta. Para diagnosticar uma possível doença provocada pelo caramujo, precisaria de um laboratório especializado. Exemplo: o barbeiro que cientificamente somente pela picada poderia levar o ser humano a ter doença de chagas. Mas, novamente, a ciência do homem falhou: levou várias vidas em Santa Catarina. Carrapato estrela que está matando e é por esses motivos que continuo, mesmo sem ganhar nada, lutando contra o caramujo gigante africano, contra o qual criei fórmulas para atraí-los e matá-los. Minhas fórmulas não fazem mal ao meio ambiente e nem à saúde humana. Mas a minha preocupação é o caramujo e as iscas vendidas com elevado grau de veneno que podem matar o homem, principalmente as pessoas”, diz com preocupação Zeca Preto.

    Para José Pontes, em contrapartida, existe o Ibama que criou o Dia C de Combate ao Caramujo para colocar expostas muitas pessoas. “O Dia C é usar os alunos da rede pública de ensino para coletar manualmente os caramujos, mas somente os alunos correm o risco porque o Ibama só determina como é a campanha. Levei à cidade de Registro 90% do controle, sozinho, sem usar uma pessoa sequer e peço em todas as palestras que dou gratuitamente para que ninguém se arrisque a pegar nessa praga. O Dia C veio pra Registro um dia e já está na sua agenda oficial como um troféu expondo e usando as pessoas. E eu, que passei fome e frio, sequer sou considerado pelo Ibama. Acabou o Dia C e eu ainda continuo sofrendo, até que algum deputado ou senador ou a imprensa me enxergue para que eu possa fazer uma campanha para todos. Fiz a campanha na gestão do ex-prefeito da cidade de Registro, Samuel Moreira, hoje subprefeito de São Miguel Paulista. Com matérias do meu trabalho nos jornais e até hoje nenhum deputado mostrou algum interesse. O interesse somente aparece na época de eleição, e os prefeitos pedem obras para mostrar aos eleitores e esquecem que eleitores doentes não votam”, lamenta-se Zé Preto.

    O combatente dos caramujos gigantes desafia: “gostaria de saber se tem algum político que tem preocupação em mostrar à imprensa esse descaso e eu desafio qualquer um que diga que entende de caramujo porque não foi faculdade que me ensinou a combater essa praga, foi o medo de morrer junto com muitos. Minha tristeza é saber que eu, para colocar a minha invenção no mercado ou prestar serviço, preciso provar que não tem veneno! Até hoje ninguém se contaminou com minha invenção, eu mesmo tomo o produto que criei. As empresas milionárias deixam somente na embalagem, não existe antídoto em caso de intoxicação. Não é justo estar eu passando por necessidades, tendo o maior conhecimento na esfera mundial, porque os Estados Unidos, país de primeiro mundo, jogaram quase uma bomba atômica e não conseguiram acabar com a praga do caramujo. Essa \”bomba\” custou a eles mais de 10 mil dólares, atingindo apenas 10% dos caramujos. Será que eu, pra poder sobreviver neste Brasil cruel, sendo negro, preciso entrar ilegalmente nos Estados Unidos e fazer meu trabalho lá para depois voltar aqui e ser tratado com dignidade?”, questiona.

    Finalizando, Zeca Preto diz: “enviei meu material de pesquisa ao senhor presidente da República e para a ministra do meio ambiente. Não obtive nenhuma resposta, não sei nem ao menos se chegaram a ler o que enviei. Nos e-mails informei-lhes do meu clamor por soluções ao Ministério do Meio Ambiente para que possamos tomar providências urgentes para um combate a nível nacional. Enquanto todos estavam festejando o natal e ano novo, estava eu sem alimentos, ajudando as pessoas a se livrar dessa praga. Desenvolvi também fórmulas para o combate às formigas da Amazônia, que atacaram principalmente a cidade de Eirunepé, e para o carrapato-estrela, que está matando muita gente”.

    CONTATO COM O PEQUISADOR:

    E-mail – pesquisador.jose.de.pontes@hotmail.com

    jose.c.pontes@hotmail.com

    Em um ano, força-tarefa captura 78 mil caramujos-africanos na Flórida

    Molusco ameaça biodiversidade e pode transmitir meningite a humanos. Invasão de espécie exótica no Sul dos EUA foi detectada em 2011.

    Do Globo Natureza, em São Paulo

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    Autoridades da Flórida, nos Estados Unidos, divulgaram nesta semana que capturaram 78 mil exemplares de caramujo-gigante-africano, espécie considerada invasiva e que ameaça animais, peixes e plantas do estado norte-americano.

    Segundo informações da agência de notícias “Associated Press”, desde setembro de 2011 foi montada uma força-tarefa para combater o molusco na região.

    Um programa que visa aniquilar esta população foi criado e já consumiu US$ 2,6 milhões em recursos estaduais e federais. Não se sabe como o caracol chegou à Flórida até o momento e não há estimativa de quantos permanecem na região.

    Imagem de caramujo-gigante-africano capturado em força-tarefa realizada na Flórida. Desde setembro de 2011 foram encontrados 78 mil moluscos no estado norte-americano. (Foto: Scott Burton/AP)

    Prejuízo e transmissão de doença De acordo com Richard Gaskalla, diretor do Departamento da Divisão de Agricultura da Indústria de plantas, foram utilizadas várias ferramentas para capturar os caramujos. Segundo ele, o governo está confiante de que pode vencer a luta contra a invasão da espécie exótica e pede a ajuda da população.

    O caramujo-gigante-africano é considerado um dos caracóis mais prejudiciais no mundo, porque ele consome ao menos 500 tipos de plantas e pode causar danos em biomas. Além disso, pode transportar um parasita que causa meningite em humanos.

    O último surto de caramujos desta espécie relatado na Flórida foi em 1966, quando um menino de Miami contrabandeou três espécimes como animais de estimação. Sua avó os lançou em seu jardim, mas eles se multiplicaram. Demorou uma década para conseguir aniquilar esses animais, com um custo de U$ 1 milhão para erradicar mais de 18.000 caramujos.

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